Logic Masters Deutschland e.V.

5 Unicorn's

(Eingestellt am 11. Januar 2024, 18:40 Uhr von NurglesGift)

Normal sudoku rules apply.

Cells a chess king's move apart cannot be the same digit.

Digits on thermos must increase from the bulb.

Any cell that is part of a thermo also can not be a chess knight's move apart from the same digit.

Any cell that is part of a thermo can not be consecutive with an orthogonally adjacent digit.

Additionally, cells a knight's or king's move away from a thermo bulb can not contain ANY of the digits that appear anywhere on that thermo. (obviously except for the cells on the thermo itself if those can be seen from the bulb).

And also cells orthogonally adjacent to a thermo bulb can not be consecutive with ANY of the digits that appear on that thermo. (see example below.)

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Example

The thermo bulb counts as being all the digits on that thermo

None of the colored cells can be 1,3 or 5 by king's or knight's move from the thermo bulb

the yellow cells can not be consecutive with 1,3 or 5

I hope the rules are clear, if not, please tell me.

Lösungscode: give the digits of column 1 and 2 (top to bottom)

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Gelöst von Lizzy01, LordBidoof, luuu, pms_headache, annnz
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am 3. April 2024, 19:37 Uhr von NurglesGift
hehe congratulations, I realize understanding the rules might be harder then the actual puzzle ;)

am 18. März 2024, 18:39 Uhr von pms_headache
I had had this puzzle open on my iPad for weeks. (FYI f-puzzle is nearly unusable on an iPad, ended up using a blank CtC puzzle) Yesterday was my birthday and I thought I'd give it another shot. Finally solved it. Long hard slog for me in part because I misunderstood the rules. The consecutive digit constraint applies to adjacent digits on the thermos as well as around them. The "obvious exception" was for the king's move constraint. Oops! Would have been a more straightforward solve had I realized my error, but It was a great challenge, so thanks so much.

am 14. Januar 2024, 17:32 Uhr von NurglesGift
changed difficulty

am 14. Januar 2024, 17:31 Uhr von NurglesGift
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am 14. Januar 2024, 17:27 Uhr von NurglesGift
Thank you very much, I will use your wording in hope it's more clear to people. :)

am 14. Januar 2024, 17:11 Uhr von Lizzy01
This is not two stars, I voted it 3 stars overall. The break-in is even almost 3.5 stars I'd say, the rest of it is about 2 stars. Difficulty estimates should be mostly based on the hardest steps.
The rules are written in a slightly confusing way in my opinion, and I think some people will find that enough to not even try. I did understand them, after reading them multiple times along with the example and your comment, but it is probably better to try and phrase them a bit more precise and easier to understand.
I find it quite hard to make good readable rulesets myself too, but here is my attempt to slightly rephrase them:

Normal sudoku rules apply.
Digits on thermos must increase from the bulb.

Cells a chess king's move apart cannot be the same digit.

Any cell that is part of a thermo also cannot be a chess knight's move apart from the same digit.

Any cell that is part of a thermo cannnot be consecutive with an orthogonally adjacent digit.

Additionally, cells a knight's or king's move away from a thermo bulb cannot contain ANY of the digits that appear anywhere on that thermo. (obviously except for the cells on the thermo itself if those can be seen from the bulb).

And also cells orthogonally adjacent to a thermo bulb cannot be consecutive with any of the digits that appear on that thermo.
(see example below.)

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am 14. Januar 2024, 09:34 Uhr von NurglesGift
it's basically miracle rules but only on cell that is any part of an thermo, + the bulb counts as being all digits of it's thermo (for the miracle rules). to make it more clear, if 2 cell are a knight's move from each other and are the same digit. if none of those cells are part of an thermo. it's ok. if 1 or more is part of an thermo. i's not ok

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am 14. Januar 2024, 08:53 Uhr von NurglesGift
I can say 100% it's not 5-star. I would say it's closer to 1-star after the break in

am 14. Januar 2024, 08:44 Uhr von The Bard
Maybe I just don't get this ruleset but after over 2 hours of no progress I had to give up. Either this is a 5 star difficulty with logic that is beyond me, or there is some challenges with understanding these rules.

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