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Colossal Fillomino with Sandwich Sudoku

(Eingestellt am 28. September 2022, 15:50 Uhr von MagnusJosefsson)

Hinweis: Dieses Rätsel ist ungewöhnlich lang und schwierig. Rechne mit einer Lösungszeit von 5-10 Stunden.


Regeln

Für das Sudoku-Gitter gelten Sandwich-Sudoku regeln.

Für das Fillomino-Gitter gelten die üblichen Fillomino-Regeln.

Der Medianwert der Zahlen in jedem Kästchen im Fillomino-Gitter muss die Ziffer an der entsprechenden Position im Sudoku entsprechen.
Die Kästchen sind 3x3 Felder groß (3x1/1x3 an den Rändern) und mit kontrastierenden Farben gefärbt, damit sie leichter zu erkennen sind.

Sandwich Sudoku-regeln:
  • Jede Zeile, jede Spalte und jedes Kästchen des zentralen 9x9-Gitters muss die Ziffern von 1 bis 9 jeweils einmal enthalten.
  • Jede Zahl außerhalb des Gitters muss die Summe der Ziffern zwischen 1 und 9 in dieser Zeile/Spalte entsprechen. Zahlen über/unter des Gitters geben Sandwichsummen für Spalten an und Zahlen links/rechts vom Gitter geben Sandwichsummen für Zeilen an.

Fillomino-Regeln:
  • Das Gitter ist in Gebiete zu unterteilen und in jedes Feld ist eine Zahl einzutragen.
  • Die Zahlen in einem Gebiet sind alle gleich und geben die Größe dieses Gebiets an.
  • Gleich große Gebiete berühren sich nicht orthogonal.



Beispiel:


Teilbeispiel zur Veranschaulichung des Regelsatzes (nicht unbedingt auf ein gültiges vollständiges Puzzle erweiterbar)


Das Rätsel:

Sudoku-Gitter:


Fillomino-Gitter:


Links zum Online-Lösen (Penpa+): Mit Farben / Ohne Farben

Links zum Online-Lösen (SudokuPad/CTC) [Danke wooferzfg!]: Colossal Fillomino + Sandwich Sudoku


Die Lösungsprüfung erfordert Zahlen in allen Felder beider Gittern.

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Lösungscode: Die Zahlen aus den folgenden Felder des Fillomino-Gitters: Die ersten 10 Felder in Spalte 3, dann die letzten 10 Felder in Zeile 3, dann die ersten 10 Felder in der mittleren Zeile.

Zuletzt geändert am 30. September 2022, 10:10 Uhr

Gelöst von KNT, ONeill, polar, rmn, AstralSky, Mrtn, the_cogito, ascension, Jesper, RJBlarmo, Vebby, thoughtbyte, tesseralis, wooferzfg, Jakhob, Snookerfan, lerroyy, Euclid, TimNN, tinounou, filmore, harrison, ... h5663454, Sewerin, Lizzy01, cheezzywizz, Agent, widjo, CahounCZ, checkoway, sugardude, Tacosian, dunder, Lithusei, ridesdragons, Tom-dz, pandiani42, kmoter, Asphodel, wpolly, Myxo, dogfarts
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Kommentare

am 4. März 2024, 23:32 Uhr von Myxo
Very fun marathon puzzle :)

am 4. März 2024, 02:14 Uhr von wpolly
6h43m solve. The interaction of medians and fillomino logic is genius.

am 26. März 2023, 08:29 Uhr von Agent
Wow, this has to be one of the most impressive constructions I've ever seen! It's incredible how everything comes together, a very satisfying marathon.

am 10. Februar 2023, 14:48 Uhr von Lizzy01
It took me almost 8 1/2 hours, but I did it! Awesome puzzle.

am 8. Februar 2023, 14:42 Uhr von h5663454
I don't know what words to use to describe this horror puzzle that took me almost two days...
As I filled in the last number, the tense nerves were completely relaxed almost instantly, and I was completely paralyzed on the chair...
Because I've finally defeated this giant beast...

am 4. Februar 2023, 18:31 Uhr von Niverio
Very long fun marathon solve! Funnily enough this is not my longest puzzle solve, it needed to be double my solve time to actually achieve that :D But the flow and smoothness is out of this world. Absolute beauty of a puzzle.

am 29. November 2022, 20:48 Uhr von Silverstep
Absolutely insane (in a good way). Took me 5 hours, although some of it was me choosing a unique colour for each region size. Also 33 is my new favourite number.

am 10. November 2022, 01:30 Uhr von Christounet
Done !!!

As the other solvers noted before, this is by far the longest solve I've ever done so far. If I'm honest, when I first saw that puzzle, I thought I would not dare try to solve such a huge grid, for many reasons. Then I did try and solve some of your other puzzles and had a lot of fun doing that, so it tickled me enough that I came back here to take a look at that beast... Well, almost 1000 digits/numbers and a few hours later, I must say I enjoyed it very very much and it was worth every minute I spent. I did solve it bit by bit over several days while solving other "small" puzzles in the meantime, so that I could savour it little by little. I must day I'll miss it because it has been a very special journey. When I finished the puzzle, I spent a few moments looking at the grid with a little nostalgy that it was already over. So, thank you very much for taking so much time and care to set this wonderful puzzle.

am 4. November 2022, 16:33 Uhr von hurrdurr
How you are able to construct this is beyond me. An absolute stunner, worth every second of my time.

am 29. Oktober 2022, 17:54 Uhr von Jaych
Somehow, the hardest part of a puzzle that took me nearly 5 and a half hours to finish was putting in the solution code correctly.

I adore how no individual piece of logic was impossible to discover, but each one was just difficult and precise enough to keep me on my toes the whole way through. Instant add to favorites.

Zuletzt geändert am 13. Oktober 2022, 14:05 Uhr

am 13. Oktober 2022, 14:02 Uhr von henrypijames
7 hours for me.

I was so scared of making mistakes that remain undetected for a looong time, but miraculously every mistake I did make was either caught by myself quickly, or had soon led to a contraction that forced me to correct it.

am 12. Oktober 2022, 20:11 Uhr von LordZeppelin
That. Was. Legendary! Thank you!

am 10. Oktober 2022, 14:33 Uhr von josh_johnson
Wow! This is an epic puzzle in every sense of the word.

I found the difficulty of the deductions within the puzzle to be a consistent 3-4 star difficulty throughout.

am 2. Oktober 2022, 00:29 Uhr von MagnusJosefsson
Thank you everyone for solving this puzzle! When posting it, I was unsure whether such a long puzzle would even see enough solves to be rated, so I'm both surprised and thrilled to see it get so many solves so quickly.

Thanks also for your kind feedback, your words really warm my heart. Hearing of people spending a really long time on my puzzle and still finding it enjoyable and rewarding means everything to me.

am 1. Oktober 2022, 21:45 Uhr von Euclid
Wow, what a roller coaster! This has to be my proudest solve on this site.

I was initially heartbroken to realize I had broken the puzzle about 9 hours in. I just wanted to give up, but I came back to it the next day and was luckily able to salvage my mistake with only minor corrections.

I actually don't think any of the individual deductions are too difficult, the biggest challenge is remaining precise throughout the entire solve.

Truly remarkably puzzle Magnus, I can't believe the time that must have gone into setting this. Thank-you so much!

am 30. September 2022, 22:57 Uhr von lerroyy
Really an incredible puzzle and construction! thanks

am 30. September 2022, 12:50 Uhr von Snookerfan
Exceptional puzzle, a long but satisfying journey. The difficulty was fair all the way through. I did have a hard time entering the solution code though by wrongly identifying row 3 and column 3, which made me a little nervous after 8 hours of solving. Thank you so much!

am 30. September 2022, 10:10 Uhr von MagnusJosefsson
Added SudokuPad links, thanks wooferzfg!

am 30. September 2022, 09:48 Uhr von wooferzfg
Absolutely incredible, thank you.

For anyone who wants to solve this in SudokuPad -
Colossal Fillomino: https://tinyurl.com/yckse97z
Sandwich Sudoku: https://tinyurl.com/muz58zfw

am 30. September 2022, 08:39 Uhr von tesseralis
That was... wow. I'm speechless. This feels like one of those "World's Largest Crossword" novelty puzzles in scope if they actually made it *good*. Part of me wants to print this out and hang out the solved grid on my wall!

am 30. September 2022, 06:49 Uhr von thoughtbyte
Truly astounding! This is a puzzle I will not forget. Thank you Magnus!

am 30. September 2022, 04:21 Uhr von Vebby
A joyful meditative solving experience, huge satisfaction to successfully complete. Insane construction, a stellar feat to create this, hats off Magnus! Thank you for this labour of love.

am 29. September 2022, 23:05 Uhr von RJBlarmo
That's enough counting to 33 for one day :)

Fantastic construction, unbelievable how much unique logic there is packed into this puzzle.

am 29. September 2022, 18:19 Uhr von the_cogito
I'm not normally keen on solving these kinds of marathon puzzles, but decided to give this a crack, and what a font of unique and interesting deductions. Compelling to the end, thanks Magnus.

am 29. September 2022, 17:21 Uhr von Mrtn
Thank you for this mad puzzle. I enjoyed every second of the hours spent on it.

am 29. September 2022, 05:59 Uhr von polar
The ambition of this puzzle is sheer madness and I'm all for it! A beautiful way to spend a few hours and I'm not in the least bit surprised to hear it took you over 100h to set.. The smoothness throughout the entire solve is astounding to me - a true labour of love I'm sure!

I hope more people aren't put off by the size of this grid and give it a go. There isn't anything overly difficult in there at all, 'just' a giant fillomino to be enjoyed. It's also the perfect type of puzzle to be able to dip in and out of thanks to how well it has been constructed. Quite a unique masterpiece indeed.

Thank you Magnus!!

am 29. September 2022, 03:11 Uhr von ONeill
This is an incredible construction! Every mini 3x3 of the Fillomino felt like its own unique puzzle. This is by far the longest I've spent solving any puzzle but I'm glad I've done it. Thank you for this extraordinary puzzle :)

am 29. September 2022, 01:59 Uhr von KNT
What an amazing journey. I know it might sound silly to say this of a grid of this size, but I actually expected this puzzle to be harder. Every deduction was smooth, and if this grid were half the size I probably would rate it 4 stars difficulty.

This puzzle is so masterfully designed - despite the ridiculous size, I always knew exactly where to look and what to do. Thanks so much for this treat, Magnus. :)

am 28. September 2022, 15:48 Uhr von MagnusJosefsson
This puzzle is my second variant of Fillomino/Sudoku hybrid.
However, while the first one ("Chaos FilloSudokumino") was quite approachable, this one will be very challenging.

The grid size and large number of interactions between the grids makes this puzzle time-consuming and committing to solve, and I realize most solvers will probably skip it.

However, if you do choose to attack this puzzle, be sure that I am here to support you in any way I can. The last thing I want you to do is spend several hours on it only to break it and give up in frustration. So if you happen to break the puzzle, reach out to me and I will point out which section the error is in. If you work your way deep into the puzzle only to get stuck, let me know and I will give a small hint where to focus next. In my mind, getting some assistance once or twice when breaking the puzzle or receiving a few small hints does not at all diminish the achievement of solving a puzzle of this size. You may contact me on Discord (MAGNUS#4295), or you can leave a hidden comment here.

On a more positive note, I personally love this puzzle and there is a reason that I have stuck with it spending well over 100h constructing and testing it. So if you can find the committment and patience to get through the solve, I think you will find it very rewarding.

Good luck and enjoy the puzzle!

Schwierigkeit:5
Bewertung:100 %
Gelöst:56 mal
Beobachtet:12 mal
ID:000BBZ

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