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Suguru Chaos Deconstruction: Superfast Jellyfish

(Eingestellt am 14. Mai 2022, 16:49 Uhr von KNT)

After solving the wonderful puzzle RGB by Qodec, I was inspired to make an ambiguity puzzle with those constraints. I also have been interested in the Suguru trend that mathpesto started, and even though I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of the genre, I wanted to try my hand at one. So after about 5 days of breaking grids, I finally ended up with what you see here. This was definitely an interesting setting exercise, but I'm not sure if I see myself making more Suguru puzzles in the future unless a ruleset particularly speaks to me. This puzzle definitely doesn't feel my usual style. Regardless, I hope you enjoy this.


Deconstructed Suguru: Fill some cells in the grid with the digits 1–9 such that no digit repeats in a row or column. All digits must belong to a region (a collection of orthogonally connected cells), and a region of size n contains the digits 1 through n once each. Regions may not touch each other orthogonally, although they may touch each other diagonally.

Lines are either Renban, Whisper, or Between. It is up to the solver to determine which are which.

Renban: The digits along the line form a set of nonrepeating, consecutive digits.

Whisper: Adjacent digits along the line differ by at least 5.

Between: Digits along the line lie strictly between the values of the digits in the endpoints. For the purposes of this puzzle, a 2 cell line cannot be a between line.

Normal Odd/Even rules apply. A cell with a gray circle has an odd digit, a cell with a gray square has an even digit.

Every cell with a line or odd/even clue contains a digit. Adjacent cells on a line that are not orthogonally connected are in different regions.

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Lösungscode: Row 4 followed by Column 5, ignoring blank cells.

Gelöst von Niverio, kolot, zuzanina, Krokant, RJBlarmo, lerroyy, jkuo7, MagnusJosefsson, ___, Vebby, wenchang, hepcecob, Tilberg, peacherwu2, dunder, marcmees, Elliott810, harrison, crispy16, ns08
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Zuletzt geändert am 22. Mai 2022, 00:13 Uhr

am 21. Mai 2022, 19:18 Uhr von crispy16
This was wonderful. It took me about 3 hours, but I could have cut that down by some if I had bothered to actually do basic sudoku and counting region sizes.

A fantastic addition to the genre.


Thank you kindly, crispy. I don't blame you for missing "basic" sudoku- this puzzle has too much sudoku for my tastes, but I still am happy with how it turned out. It was a bit of an experiment for me.

Zuletzt geändert am 19. Mai 2022, 09:04 Uhr

am 18. Mai 2022, 22:38 Uhr von hepcecob
This crazy f***ing thing took me DAYS to solve, JFC. So easy to make a mistake, so much logic required. I have no idea how the f any of you guys are solving this in 3 hours.


lmao yeah this definitely took a long time to set at the expense of some of my sanity. the final two regions kept breaking for basically humanly invisible reasons, and i spent a good 5 hours (at least) at the start understanding some general sudoku implications of the rightmost 5 or 6 columns. glad you persevered though and i hope it was enjoyable!

am 18. Mai 2022, 21:49 Uhr von wenchang
Nice and hard puzzle.

am 18. Mai 2022, 09:57 Uhr von Vebby
Very nice! My first suguru, posed quite a challenge. Thanks KNT :)

am 17. Mai 2022, 23:39 Uhr von ___
enjoyed this a lot and the solve path was very satisfying - especially when certain deductions force the type of line. thanks KNT!

am 17. Mai 2022, 09:41 Uhr von MagnusJosefsson
Great puzzle! Very consistent in its difficulty, and everything resolves so nicely in the end. Well set!

am 16. Mai 2022, 06:36 Uhr von RJBlarmo
Over 3 hours for me and I'm quite happy with that time. Absolute beast of a puzzle!

Zuletzt geändert am 16. Mai 2022, 01:27 Uhr

am 15. Mai 2022, 23:59 Uhr von Krokant
Well, this took about 19-2000 minutes. Really teaches you Humility. But you're never tempted to raise the White Flag. And the Momentary Bliss when you're done feels good.

Hopefully another ruleset will pique your interest in the future. This was a lot of fun. :)


I appreciate you sticking with it, but I appreciate the pun even more :-)

am 15. Mai 2022, 17:31 Uhr von kolot
Wonderful puzzle!

am 14. Mai 2022, 17:55 Uhr von Niverio
Testing this live was a brutal experience. The most non-ambiguity like ambiguity puzzle which was ever created. If that's a good or bad thing, the solver has to figure out for themselves :P

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