Example for Japanese Sum Cave Cipher #9
(Eingestellt am 15. Dezember 2022, 03:02 Uhr von KNT)
Rules:
Shade some cells in the grid and place digits from 1-7 in the unshaded cells such that all unshaded cells are connected and all shaded cells are connected by other shaded cells to an edge of the grid. An edge of the grid in this puzzle is defined as either the inner or outer border of the ring. Digits from 1-7 may appear at most once in any row or column.
The grey area inside the ring is a skyscraper puzzle, and not part of the cave. The digits 1 to 4 must be placed in every row and column, and digits at the boundary must be valid skyscraper clues for this nested puzzle. Regarding repeats in rows and columns, digits in the grey area do not interfere with digits outside the grey area.
Clues outside the grid are Japanese Sums clues, which indicate the sums of connected digits in the respective rows or columns. At least one shaded cell must exist between each clue, the grey area is not a delimeter between two clues. On one side of each row or column, the clues given have at least one incorrect value, or are incomplete. On the other side, the clues given are correct and complete, but if more than one clue is provided, at least some of the clues are written in an incorrect order.
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Lösungscode: Row 8, Column 1, S for shaded cells
Kommentare
am 28. Januar 2024, 21:53 Uhr von Piatato
Wonderful, looking forward to trying the big one as well!
am 31. August 2023, 15:14 Uhr von wildbush7
Can the sum clues span the inner grey area?
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Hi @wildbush7, yes, they can.
am 28. April 2023, 02:31 Uhr von wooferzfg
Wow, that was really awesome
am 26. Dezember 2022, 09:41 Uhr von AnnaTh
Wonderful puzzle! The grid reminds me of some of ibags very early puzzles on the portal which I also recommend highly.
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If you are referring to ID=0001XI, this indeed draws inspiration from it :). I completely agree, all of her Japanese Sum puzzles are incredible.
am 19. Dezember 2022, 04:02 Uhr von KNT
@rhinofifteen:
For the purposes of the cave, the inner 4x4 does not exist, that is, the cave cannot connect through the center.
So to explicitly answer your question, no, it is not like the sums, which may travel through the middle of the grid.
am 18. Dezember 2022, 12:35 Uhr von cmb
Great introduction.
Well-chosen clues.
am 18. Dezember 2022, 10:25 Uhr von polar
@rhinofifteen:
Each row and column are independent from each other as to which side has the incorrect order and which has the incomplete/incorrect sum(s). Also, incomplete in this case means a side may have too many clues as well.
am 18. Dezember 2022, 05:32 Uhr von rhinofifteen
Clarification question: With the "on one side clues are..." does the polarity or outcome of one row affect the other rows? e.g. If R1 has the incorrect order on the left and the incorrect value on the right, does that mean all rows necessarily have the incorrect order on the left and the incomplete/incorrect hint on the right?
Thanks! It's a fun puzzle already but I can tell it and the big one will take some time!
@polar
Thanks! That helps a lot!
am 15. Dezember 2022, 21:00 Uhr von PrimeWeasel
Treacherous mini minefield
am 15. Dezember 2022, 17:17 Uhr von ONeill
Wonderful puzzle!
am 15. Dezember 2022, 13:04 Uhr von MagnusJosefsson
Great puzzle! Really looking forward to the bigger one!
am 15. Dezember 2022, 11:34 Uhr von Myxo
The hardest puzzle of all time. On a serious note, great job!
am 15. Dezember 2022, 10:37 Uhr von marcmees
I made quite a number of beginners mistakes. Glad this is just an example :-). I feel I'm ready now for the "real" one. thanks
am 15. Dezember 2022, 07:23 Uhr von Koalagator2
Fantastic puzzle! Can't wait for the full version.
am 15. Dezember 2022, 04:25 Uhr von polar
Enjoyed that example a lot - the lack of cipher allows for a much smoother introduction thanks :)
am 15. Dezember 2022, 02:55 Uhr von KNT
I typically am not too sentimental about puzzles, but the follow up puzzle to this, is, without question, my favorite creation to date. Setting the puzzle consumed a great portion of my November and I am exceedingly happy with almost all aspects of it.
This example should be a very smooth 3 star ride, but I have listed this as 4 because the concept of incorrectly ordered Japanese Sums may feel unfamiliar. I hope you enjoy this, and decide to give the follow up a try :)
